Not for love of money, but of Humanity. "Greater is he who works for the good of all, then he who works for the good of himself only" ~ Matthew 25:40: "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'"- (NIV). I live in Singapore where the Emperor must not be disturbed.

Thursday, May 31, 2012

True religion is putting one's faith in sensible ideals/ things (/ right God :).).

Originally Posted by knyghtryder (31May2012) View Post
Re: Is religion a mental illness?
I know what you are charging TS with. But I have other issues with what TS has posted, which are contained in my post. What I don't understand is why you don't seem to allow other people to post their own views if they differ from yours.
I do not agree that TS is making the mistaken premise of 'association fallacy' so why would I wish to charge him with something you've already charged him with especially when I do not share your point of view?
Okay, I've re-read your comment and apologize for having misunderstood you the first time. Yes, I agree that we have different views and as such, any comparison of your accusation of 'hasty generalization' with mine of 'association fallacy' was misplaced. I apologize for my misreading and regret any inconvenience caused.
Originally Posted by BicCherry View Post
"One must separate the instrument (religion) from the motivation (mental illness)"
- Sorry, correct U if I may: "One must separate the instrument (religion) from the motivation (mental illness) willful misinterpretation"
that's your charge, not mine.. maybe you should stick to your own arguments instead of telling other people what their's should be.
Upon my second reading of your message, may I kindly suggest that your comment could be viewed as equally offensive as the suggestion by the TS and a mere rephrasing of TS's argument/ question.

Again, I apologize for my misunderstanding of your standpoint the first time round.

I'd agree that the association of the Catholic Church with pedophilia [wiki] is indeed an embarrassing revelation and a strong reminder of the fallibility of men, whether residing within or outside the Church system. TS has asked if religion could really be mental illness arising within society de novo whilst you have asked if it is a cesspit where deviants gather (think I heard U right this time).

You are both right in some ways in so far that the core cause of such a situation is the lack of sincere faith (PS: True religion has historical significance, false ones have hardly any qualified historicity). No part of the practice of religion is immune to abuse as much as no part of the human body is immune to cancer/ death- what is necessary is the constant effort of one to remain faithful to one's own religion/ cause and only then will the truth reveal itself.

In the story of Adam and Eve [wiki] (abvr: A&E), God had given clear instructions for A&E NOT to eat from the tree in the center of the garden of Eden and to the contrary face death ("And the Lord God commanded the man, 'You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.'" [Gen2:16-17, NIV]). This was a commandment, not a guideline nor an option. However, A&E allowed their lesser desires (as rep by the serpent, where real / figurative): "When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it." [Gen3:6 NIV]

This is the generally accepted Christian biblical recollection of the 'Fall of Man' [wiki]- at fundamental issue to which the Christian Church is premised- that of an effort towards returning to a faithful relationship with God given the detriment of this precedence ('incident'). The Church is not perfect (assumingly that those outside are lesser so) and as humans, succumbs to the liabilities of human indiscretions- we should all be concerned when this happens. These incidents however unfortunate, shouldn't preclude the independent practice of faith in so far that it is personally experienced and also beneficial to society. True faith promotes a peaceful and progressive society.

To erroneously convict true religion through the fallacy of 'guilt by association' [wiki] will surely be tragic to the peace and progress of society- a man without faith is like a Ferrari without direction, we must all place our faith in sensible (legitimate) things.
31May2012: Is religion a mental illness?


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